My Dogs fight with each other-don't want to get rid of them but they can NEVER be together again?

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Two Dogs

1. Grace, Spayed Female, Beagle, 2 years and 5 months old, got her at 7 weeks old from an ad in the paper

2. Gert, Spayed Female, Mix Breed – possibly Pit bull/Boxer, stray rescue – 2 years and 6 months old (estimate), got her at (approximately) 4 or 5 months old from a rescue organization that pulled her from the county animal shelter – she was on death row & I had to drive 3 hours (one way) to pick her up

When I adopted Gert, I took Grace with me on the car ride. The rescue people were at the animal shelter. They had me introduce Grace and Gert to see if they would get along – they were both about the same age and still puppies – they got along very well immediately and I took Gert home.

Grace, even tho she is physically smaller always seemed to be number one in pecking order because she was more confident.

They were like best friends and sisters and played together.

They had some difficulties along the way but it wasn’t until they were about a year old that they had a serious fight. We changed some of our routines with them in order to prevent this from happening again. Mainly keeping them separate when we had company over bc they really seemed to want to fight over attention from "new" people.

They still slept together every night and played together all the time.

They had about 4 or 5 of these pretty serious skirmishes over the next year or so – but they were few and far between – we worked out a way to separate them quickly – i would hold Grace’s mouth shut while my boyfriend opened Gert’s mouth and unclamped her from Grace and then we would keep them separate and let things cool down.

We tried this spray that you are supposed to spray on fighting animals but it didn’t work. I emptied a whole can right in their faces and they didn’t care.

So we have been in a kind of limbo, not knowing what to do.

Then a month ago – they had an extremely serious fight. I was alone. I did everything I could to break them up but when I would get one loose the other would start it up again. I mostly worked on trying to free the Beagle from the Pit and then getting the Beagle inside the house to separate them. But the Pit snatched the Beagle out of my arms. I also got bit many times by the Beagle. While the Beagle is being bit she thrashes her mouth around in the air biting at anything. So while I was working on removing the Pit, the Beagle bit me many many times until I couldn’t move my hands anymore and I gave up.

I thought the Pit would kill the Beagle.

I went to the urgent care.
Then we came home and took the Beagle to the emergency vet.
She is recovered now but she was seriously injured.
The Pit had some bites on her face and eyes but was not injured as much bc she is so much quicker and stronger.

Since that fight we have kept them COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

I feel we can NEVER put them together again because I don’t want to see the Beagle suffer like that again. She had cuts all over her arms, legs, and throat.
I also don’t ever won’t to have to try and break them up again. My hands healed too but it could have been much worse. It is very scary to try and break up dogs fighting.
I wish I would have had welding gloves on or something like that.
A lot of people say to try a hose or bucket of water but the dogs don’t even notice things like that. They are intense.

Both of them are extremely sweet and loving dogs to people, they love us & I love them both.

NOW HERE IS THE QUESTION:

SHOULD I GET RID OF ONE?
WHICH ONE?
SHOULD I TRY TO KEEP BOTH OF THEM AND KEEP THEM SEPARATELY?
ANY OTHER IDEAS?
Additional Info:
keeping them separate is very difficult, whichever dogs is alone cries
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THANK YOU ALL FOR ANSWERING
PAT K – water doesn’t work, at all.
they are in a home with a big fenced yard, they get a medium amount of exercise but could get more – i agree that tired dogs are good dogs
F D
that is true about breathing rights
BOBBIE L
sorry about the length, i tried to edit but….i couldn’t sorry
this is really hard for me
Oregano1

We think the Beagle is the instigator
thanks Oregano1
i appreciate the time you took-you have good info
CHARLENE

Thanks Charlene

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10 Responses to “My Dogs fight with each other-don't want to get rid of them but they can NEVER be together again?”

  1. Charlene Currngton says:

    I have no answer except to say one of the given answers regarding re-homing the beagle makes sense because it is difficult to place pits. We’ve had beagles as well. In the past 14 years, we have had 5 pit bulls, females and males. Seemed as they aged, they could not tolerate each other. We’ve had to separate them. Very difficult with exercising, "doing their business" and feeding. One lived upstairs, 3 in the garage and 1 in the family room that was blocked off by stacked heavy duty equipment 5 feet high and 5 feet long from the rest of the house. We had 3 shifts for them to use the backyard. In the last 2 years, 3 died of natural causes. We now have 2 females, both age 7 yrs old and are from the same litter. One of them is a fighter, grumpy and temperamental. She just wants to be a "den" dog. The other is extremely friendly, loves people especially children, is good with other dogs, will only fight if she has to and is extremely adventurous. Since moving to another house, they have been fighting more. We’ve had to separate them until the the grumpy one "cools down" then after a few days to a week my son puts them back together. So far this has worked because the grumpy dog does not like being alone. She needs to be with the other dog. My sons are big strong guys and can break up the fights before they get too serious but we are seriously considering giving one of the dogs to a nearby relative who has lived with them most of their lives. I understand your love for your pets and I wish you well in your decision.

  2. ms manners says:

    I agree that they should never be together again…you are lucky the beagle was not killed.

    If you cant keep them separate, then I would rehome the beagle, simply because she will be easier to place. Its very hard to find homes for adult pits.

    Please dont think you can bring another dog in….you have a dog that is animal aggressive, should managed and be kept away from other animals.

    Some APBT owners keep a break stick with them, to break the grip, since the dogs do not easily let go.

  3. tigerstailjumper says:

    I’m sorry to hear that! I have been in a similar situation with a pit/lab. I ended up finding him a home because I knew he was more of a liability not only to my smaller dog but also to other dogs in my neighborhood.. He was also great with people but was dog aggressive as he got older. The trouble with adopting rescue pits is you have no idea where they came from. Have you talked to a behaviorist? I’m not sure how much they can help but it may be worth a try before you have to give one up. If you want two dogs maybe consider that when you make your decision. I would find the pit a home with an experienced pitbull owner if it comes down to giving one up. Good luck.

  4. F D says:

    You can probably NEVER mix them again unfortunately. Girls are less forgiving than boys and very often when 2 bitches dislike each other it can be for life. As they say ‘Dogs fight for breeding rights while bitches fight for breathing rights’ !!

    Rehome the Beagle, even though you had her first. She’s more likely to find a good home than the Pit mix is. You pit may not be dog-friendly but she is sweet and loving to her family so there doesn’t seem to be a risk to you if you keep her. Your Beagle should be rehomed quickly as they are a popular breed.

  5. Pat K says:

    1st question would be how trained are the dogs? Aggresive dogs need much more strict and on-going training. Do they get enough exercise? Dogs do not under any circumstances belong in an apartment, it is too confining and busy. Both are working dogs and need to run and run hard otherwise all that energy gets all bottled up and their only out is to fight. If they are not getting out enough then you should rethink having any dogs.
    The more aggressive dog would be the one to go.

    BTW: never break up a dog fight physically, throw water on them.

  6. Bobbie L says:

    Your question is way TOO LONG to read.

  7. Fennec Fox says:

    Honestly I’d rehome the Pit. Not slamming Pits as a whole but yours seems to be the problem. She almost KILLED your Beagle. I wouldn’t want a dog like that in my home–what if a small child pulled her tail and she snapped at them?

    Keeping them both would just lead to another disastrous fight and you might not get lucky a second time.

  8. Mark says:

    a pit bull is like having a pet gorilla

    i’ve heard about dozens & dozens & DOZENS of horror stories with these animals……sooner or later this dog will attack YOU !!!

  9. *rawr_cookie_monster :) says:

    last one that joined is the first to go. sorry to say 😐

  10. oregano13 says:

    I know you won’t want to hear this, but if I was in this situation, I’d have the Pit mix euthanized. She’s not going to be safe to place in another home, she’s inflicted very serious damage to another dog, and if you keep her and re-home the Beagle, you’ll have to manage her the rest of her life to keep her separate from any other dogs. Eventually, there may well be a mistake made, and she’d escape the yard, slip her collar, pull the leash from your hand, etc., and another dog will be hurt. Unfortunately, Pits were bred for generations specifically to display dog aggression, and usually the trait is not evident until they reach adulthood- hence the happy relationship as puppies. It’s especially a problem when kept with other dogs the same sex, which is why many breed rescues won’t place them with a same-sex dog unless they’re a full adult with an absolutely bulletproof temperament.

    It’s also likely that the Beagle is going to have some issues relating to other dogs following such a serious injury as well, and may become fearful and aggressive towards other dogs. In addition, it’s also possible that the Beagle is the instigator and received substantial damage only because the Pit is larger- it’s hard to say from your description. If that’s the case, the Beagle’s a liability to rehome, and the Pit’s likely to be fearful, aggressive, and defensive towards other dogs as a result of having to defend herself from the Beagle.

    I would not consider re-homing either an option without a behavioral evaluation by a professional first- and then only placeable if they showed no aggression towards other dogs during that evaluation.

    Keeping them both and separating isn’t a viable solution- at least not for me. One day a door won’t latch fully behind you, or the Beagle will slip out between your legs, etc. They’ve got many years of life left, and the chances of them ending up together accidentally are fairly high. While with help from a professional, lots of training for the dogs, and lots of training for you (to recognize early warning signs so you can separate before a fight), they can likely be safe together with you supervising, I’d not ever trust them alone together again, and as I’ve said, eventually it’s likely they’ll end up together. If you do keep one, I’d recommend an evaluation by a behaviorist anyway, as it’s likely there will need to be behavioral work done to make them at all safe around other dogs again.

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